Wednesday, 11 September 2013

hao1 tin1 gio3 dzig8 號天叫日

hao1 tin1 gio3 dzig8 號天叫日

I found this in the dictionary today.  What do you think it means?

We know hao1 means to cry already.  I did not realise it uses the bhê2  character.  That is the problem with speaking and listening to the language without reading and writing.  

Now I think even you can imagine what it means:  it means to cry bitterly - calling upon heaven.

So let us see how to use this hao1 tin1 gio3 dzig8

伊阿老父死去撮仔號天叫日,哭作一堆。

It means their father passed away and the children cried bitterly.

hao1 tin1 gio3 dzig8 號天叫日
Now the PêngIm

i1 a1lao6bê si2 ke3, coh4gian2 hao1tin1gio3dzig8, kao3 zag4 zeg8du2 





Tuesday, 10 September 2013

bu4ji2 不及

Our people say bhoi6hu1 for bu4ji2 不及

However, which hu character should we use.  I read all the hu1 characters and perhaps we could consider this hu1  character.  It explains that hu1  means 足夠. Which means enough or sufficient.

LLL gives two examples of use.  Hu1êng7 and this means sufficient for use. 

The second example, LLL gives is 
入不敷出. Dzib8bug4 hu1cug8 which means income does not cover expenditure.      

Could we use this hu1  for bhoi6hu1? 

Lai5 bhoi6hu1 can be explained by 來不及 which means there is not enough time to do something or it is too late to do something.

The word dictionary says 不及 as m6gib8  唔及

And thus 來不及 could be written as lai5 m6gib8 .  

What is wrong with our lai5bhoi6hu1?

Another hu1 character which could be considered is . This hu1  means trustworthy and reliable.  LLL does not give an examples of use. 

I do not really think there is a character for hu1 as in bhoi6hu1 and I am just trying to choose a character between the devil and the deep blue sea.  

That blessed word dictionary is just full of Mandarin words.  I can read Chinese characters in Diosua Uê and why would one want someone to write a dictionary which just reads off Mandarin words?  What is wrong with our own words? 

Do you have another alternative?  Please reply and let us know. 




來不及說我愛你  it is too late to say I love you




來不及了  it is already too late

薟椒仔

My Sri Lankan friends cooked for me a meal and one of the ladies mistook a scotch bonnet chilli for a bell pepper and I was reminded of a song I heard sung sometime ago.  I changed one of the words.  They used the word "ah mak" for mother which is a borrowed Malay word to a Chinese word bho2cing1. 

Some Diosua nang puritans will say I am just as bad to borrow a Mandarin word - but Diosua language is also Chinese.

Here goes one stanza of the song

叻沙
咬著薟椒
我父
母親[/]

English translation

Ate laksa [there is a link to explain what is laksa]
bitten into a chilli padi
Ua2bê6 hiam1gao5 - there is no English direct translation for this - the literal translation is: my father, hot monkey [hot as in chilli hot]
hot until (a) mother cannot recognise her children


薟椒


Now in PêngIm

ziah8 lag8sa1
ga6dioh8 hiam1zio1gian2
ua2bê6 hiam1gao5
hiam1 gao3 bho2cing1 bhoi6 dzing7 gian2


You might have heard this song too.  They use the word bhoi6hu1 - which in Mandarin is 不及.  I am trying to find the hu1 character in my dictionaries but to no avail.

Do you know of this hu?




Saturday, 7 September 2013

WangSa YeFong 王沙野峰

When I was young, my parents encouraged me to listen to WangSa YeFong so I could improve my DioSua Ue.  At that time, we just called it Teochew [an English word - which is in the Oxford English dictionary].  

ZiHong wrote to me today and he discussed about the use of lo6 giving lots of examples.  And then I saw the character long1  yesterday in one of my dictionaries.  I went shopping today and while at the supermarket car park, my mind just opened up to what WangSa said so many years ago when I was a child.


San1diam2 long1, si3 diam2 ia7 long1. Gah4 i1 dan3 mai3 long1, i1 lo6 ngên6ngên6 ain3 long1.

三點鈴, . 合伊[/] , 伊在硬硬愛鈴


七點鈴


OK the clock shows 七點鈴哈哈

There are two points of interest here. 

In the dictionary,   is written to be said as zai6 or do6.  However, for us DioSua nang, we never say do6 - but lo6 - in the above context.

Another point is LLL and the word dictionary use  for ain3 to mean want .  I have read up LLL comments on  and it does not say we should use this character to represent .

I hope you find this posting helpful.  






Thursday, 5 September 2013

bho5nai6ho5

When I was very young, I heard my father saying hiao5 gao3 bho5 nai6ho5 and I never really understood its meaning.  I sort of knew roughly what was said.  Then I read LLL and I reckoned these could be the characters for bho5 nai6ho5.



無奈何



So let us break this phrase up 嬲到無奈何 - 

First nai6ho5 奈何 - this means to cope with or to deal with

therefore bho5nai6ho6 無奈何 - unable to cope with it or unable to deal with it

Therefore, hiao5 gao3 bho5 nai6ho5 嬲到無奈何

means hiao5 until cannot cope with it or deal with it anymore

Then what is this hiao5 which my father was referring to?

I have already made a post on hiao5 and you can read all about it in that posting. 

Sorry no pictures today.  AND There is no Mandarin equivalent to 嬲到無奈何  and this is Diosua Ue. 

sleep, siesta, afternoon nap

I have found a rather interesting word in the dictionaries.  It is written as 午覺 and said as ngou5gag4 and explained in Mandarin as  睡眠. AND wu3jiao4 午覺 in Mandarin is siesta - having an afternoon sleep.

So the question is how do we say "siesta" in Diosua Ue?  Do we actually say like what LLL say - ngou5gag4?  

I know I do not say afternoon sleep as ngou5gag4.  哈哈



Did you know we are the only Chinese people who have siestas in the afternoons in China, while the other Chinese are so busy making money?  Between gongfu cha and wuziao - I wonder what else we do or not do. 

Tuesday, 3 September 2013

除了

I have been watching a historical drama Zhen Huan biography [of course without English subtitles] and HuanHuan said to her lady in waiting ": 除了你便再也沒有人會對我說這樣的話了。"

I was interested in finding out how we say chule in Diosua Ue.  As you know de5nang5  means to disturb or bother other people.  So how can I use this de5 除 character in another way?

The dictionary says chule in Diosua Ue is de5liao5 除了 and has the same meaning as Mandarin.  For those of you who do not know Mandarin, de5liao5 means besides, apart from, with the exception of etc.  

Then how would you translate what Huanhuan said to her lady in waiting: "除了你便再也沒有人會對我說這樣的話了。"?  The sentence means besides you who else would say this kind of things to me.  

I look forward to seeing how you would translate the above Mandarin sentence into Diosua Ue. 

BTW this is in episode 55 about 11 minutes into the video.



I think the only way we can improve our Diosua Ue is to be good in Mandarin and then think of what is said in Mandarin and then say the same thing in DioSua Ue.  This kind of exercise will help us have a deeper sense of our language.